Five Reasons Not to Hate Octo-Mom
Posted by Shannon LC Cate at 7:15 AM on February 16, 2009
Recently, a certain celebrity gossip website said about Nadya Suleman, “that bitch is off the rails.”
It was my final straw. Because yes, I agree, I’m no psychiatrist and I’ve never met the woman, but the attention-seeking single-mother-by-design of fourteen — including eight octuplets — is probably “off the rails.” What I don’t understand is why some people choose to react to her probable mental illness with name-calling like “bitch.”
Well, I do realise it sells tabloids and/or generates blog hits or reflects already reflected light — however unflattering — on the writer. But commenters in threads following stories about her are filled with vitriol too. And now it’s an epidemic. Suddenly, we are all supposed to love to hate Nadya.
I just don’t get it.
Here’s why I don’t hate Nadya:
1. I don’t know her. I have no idea if she’s truly an awful person, a misguided sweet person or a seriously ill person so out of touch with reality that it’s impossible to judge her.
2. There is no way to actually get to know her. Magazine stories and television interviews and press conferences designed by a professional publicist are not going to tell me any more about her. It’s all spin. Spin she’s probably only partly controlling and even then, how the heck do I know what’s truth or fiction or why she even wants it spun a particular way?
3. There are so many other forces to hate. There’s the fertility industry and its unregulated ways. There’s an unethical doctor out there who, apparently does this sort of thing with some frequency. There’s the publicist who took the job of spinning Nadya. Nadya’s idea to hire her? Probably. But again with the crazy. The publicist didn’t have to agree to take the job. She could have said, “honey, you don’t need a publicist, you need anti-psychotics.” But there is money to be made in public train wrecks, isn’t there? And let’s not forget to hate the ridiculous romantic claptrap about motherhood that encourages women to view themselves as saints or goddesses just by virtue of having a vagina that once squeezed out a child or fourteen.
4. Finally, I have to say that all the poison cast towards Nadya Suleman reminds me uncomfortably of the same viciousness cast towards mothers who don’t meet ever narrower, ever shifting culturally normative standards for all kinds of other reasons. Can’t anyone else see that the judgement hurled at Suleman is just a stone’s throw from the judgement hurled at any single mother, regardless of how she came by her children? Got pregnant the old-fashioned way? She’s a slut. Used a sperm donor and hired a nanny? She’s a selfish old maid. Needs some public assistance? She’s a leech on the taxpayer. Self-supporting? She’s a workaholic. And those judgements are yet another stone’s throw from the ones that plague other mothers. Stay at home? You’re a door mat, a bore and a bad example to your daughters. Work for money and use daycare? Why’d you bother to have kids if you didn’t plan to raise them? Used fertility treatment? Obviously the good lord didn’t want you to be a mother and you went against nature. Adopted? You stole a baby from its real mother to serve your own desires.
Do any of these sound familiar? And before you say “sure, but the one that sounds familiar to me is not fair, whereas Suleman really deserves our criticism,” I say, it’s all the same thing. It’s the same big, tired, old argument that mothers are responsible for everything bad about children, families, society. It’s the flip side of that saint/goddess nonsense.
We’d be doing ourselves a favour to quit judging women we don’t even know for situations we have no real access to — especially when those mothers are clearly compromised in some serious ways that are not within their control. Whether it be mental illness, poverty or legal injustice that compromises them. If we’d not be judged ourselves, we ought to shut up about others too.
And if you really, really want to keep hating Nadya, nothing could hurt her more than letting her story die quietly so that the people who are really close to her can turn their attention to getting her the help she — and her 14 kids — really need (hint: it’s NOT a TV show).
While I agree with some of your points: people do need to let the story die because this mentally fragile woman needs to keep it together for the sake of the kids and people are trying to push her over the edge, it is a complete overreaching for you to suggest that she represents the women’s movement and single mothers everywhere. No, she doesn’t. Her case is specific to her delusional thinking– she is NOT a beacon of hope for the women’s movement or the single mom movement. Livescience.com has a great article about the limits of human empathy and this case. We have empathy for the grandparents and we have empathy for the kids, but octomom is so outrageous in her “everything is beautiful” delusions that it is nearly impossible to have any empathy for her. She spent “easily” a hundred thousand dollars on IVF, but she’s on food stamps because she can’t afford to feed her six children. Something isn’t right with the whole story still….. and I do think it is insulting to hard working single moms out there to try and lump Naydia’s case in with them. The other single moms don’t deserve that at all!!!
Her 14 children will become an additional 2.1 million people, on an already overcrowded planet, a thousand years from now, assuming normal natality.
Nadya has been exposed as a liar, and being obsessed with Angelina Jolie. Just last Friday (Feb.13th), she was photographed getting her nails done. What mother with 13 children gets her nails done? She is a total parasite to the state of California, and the U.S.A.
“We’d be doing ourselves a favour to quit judging women we don’t even know for situations we have no real access to”
We know that a woman without earned income has had 14 children.
“Can’t anyone else see that the judgement hurled at Suleman is just a stone’s throw from the judgement hurled at any single mother, regardless of how she came by her children”
I am a single Mom. I see no parallels between this woman’s situation and the one in which I found myself many years ago. Society is not criticizing her for being a single mother. Society is criticizing her for being the unemployed single mother of 14 children by intent. Many single Moms find themselves in that situation unexpectedly. Others are perfectly competent to raise their children on their own, and they plan for them before having them. Do either of these criteria have any sort of fit with this woman? There is NO bridge between this woman’s situation and that of the average single Mom (or Dad). I think that poster Janice summed it up beautifully.
I do agree that some people are judged too harshily without necessary information about that person. I don’t think Nadya really falls into that category. She purposely had this many kids, despite what the ‘odds’ were, she knew there was a possibility of all 6 embryos taking, but to me that is neither here nor there. She was already on food stamps and was going to shool full time, and had 6 kids.. 2 of which are disabled, and couldn’t afford THOSE ones.. Why would she even go back for more?
The reason why I judge her isn’t because she is a single mom, or her fertility treatments, or attends university. The reason I judge her is because in her interviews she constantly states she wanted to have kids to fill the ‘voids in her life’. Children are not there to fill the parents needs, the parents are there to fill the childrens needs – and Nadya is completly oblivious to this. She also has no means to support them, in her interview she states she will “Make herself available to them, shes giving HERSELF to her children.” But that is not enough, not in her situation, she needs MONEY to raise these kids, but she seems to think money is not important and that she can raise them on love alone, which makes me believe she is delusional. And on top of saying that last statement, she says she plans to go back to school full-time in September.. umm ok, why didn’t you wait until you were done? what will happen to the children? I highly doubt any volunteers are going to stick around if not even the mother is. There is no way she can go to college full time and attend to 8 premature newborns and 6 other kids under the age of 8, its not possible.
Thats why I judge her, she’s not concearned about her childrens feelings, wants or needs. She cares about filling her own voids. And now she has so many kids she won’t be able to spend more than a few minutes with each and in my opinion, will not truly bond with any of them.
But I guess the first judgement I passed, before I knew anything about her except that she just had octuplets and had 6 other kids was that she was DEMANDING $2million for her story and wanted to have her own talk show. That was the very first thing I heard about and it just rubbed me the wrong way. Did she think she would have these babies and the donations and money would just come flowing in through the door? Just because she has 14 kids doesn’t make her capable of having her own talk show, so IMO I think she mostly did this for her own selfish reasons and because she thought she would get something from it, money and a tv show.
How vicious, mean and stupid can people get? Leave her alone! You show yourselves to be MONSTERS by attacking this woman. Get a life, and complain about something important – like the fact your country was bankrupted, like the fact that your young men and women died in a stupid war. Get the heck out of your trailer courts and get a life!
“Pamela says:
February 16, 2009 at 9:18 AM
Nadya has been exposed as a liar, and being obsessed with Angelina Jolie. Just last Friday (Feb.13th), she was photographed getting her nails done. ”
ARE YOU KIDDING ME!??? You persecute someone because they got their nails done?? Unbelievable. Get a friggin life, you trailer trash.
This post is my favorite internet find of the day. GREAT POST!
Nadya Suleman now has an agent, Wes Yoder of the Ambassador Agency. Stop Nadya Suleman from cashing in! Boycott any companies that do business with her, don’t buy her books, don’t buy any magazines she is in, don’t watch any tv shows she is on, boycott all advertisers on any t.v. show she is on.
i am not sure that the figure of 600k for ivf is accurate
an average cycle of ivf would cost at most $20k.
the hormones are dosed according to the age of the patient. the older the patient the higher the dose. optimum number of eggs collected per cycle is 8. from 8 eggs some will be over ripe, some will not be ripe enough and you can expect 4 will develop into embryos. doctors are now implanting 1-2 as the success rates are higher than previously. the remaining 2 would be frozen for use later, usually in individual straws so that you have some control over how many you use subsequently.
the doctor in question has another 49 year old patient who is pregnant with quads. could he be giving higher doses of the hormones to get greater egg collection? if so perhaps nadya only had one cycle of ivf and got a lot more eggs. i know a young woman (under 30) who had problems with fertility. she was given a responsible dose of hormones for her age and got 80 eggs collected from one cycle.
lets work with some guestimates. this cycle she had 6 embryos implanted. she expected to get 1 more child from that implantation. she had 5 previous cycles (six kids as one cycle the embryo split to make twins) and lets assume that the doctor implanted 3-6 embryos (i have done ivf and had three embryos implanted and got no life) so 5 times 3 is 15 plus 6 is 21 eggs. at the high end 6 times 6 is 36 eggs. this is way short of the case of 80 eggs that i personally know.
to freeze the embryos costs a couple of hundred dollars a year.
the doctor has supposedly invented a technique of implantation that perhaps has lead to her high success rate for implantation. if so his proceedure maybe copied around the world.
Since apparently there’s so much sympathy for her in Australia, on behalf of the citizens of California, I will ship the whole lot of them (crazy Nadya, her parents, the disabled older kids, the feeble new litter, the sperm donor with the bad seeds) to you (COD) and you can support them on YOUR tab for the rest of their useless lives. Deal?
Now I hate Shannon LC Cate. Anyone defending these people come off as nothing more than a “Hero” to the underdog. I chose underdog as this “bitch” has been under scrutiny since her spawn popped out. Here are some erasons I hate Nadya Suleman:
1. No job.
2. No realistic job prospects. (Who’s going to hire a woman with 14 kids, at least three of which have special needs?)
3. She did this voluntarily, without a husband, fiance, etc. (Keep in mind she could have saved the money spent on IVF by doing the donor or husband the old-fashioned way.
4. She had a second opportunity to get her story and priorities straight in her interview, but she came off as what we perceive her to be: Delusional, self-centered, free-loading, parasitical.
5. She has no home for the kids. She’s living in a 3 bedroom house that belongs to her parents (How long is anyone’s guess).
6. Whether the kids stay with her or go into the system, I still have to support them.
7. Her “website”.
8. She pays childcare expenses with student loans. Isn’t that kind of like paying a credit card bill with another credit card?
9. She could have elected to put some of the kids up for adoption on her second go around, for the benefit of the first 6 and knowing her situation, but she chose the selfish route.
10. She has not provided anyone on any show with any idea of how she plans to support the kids.
That’s why I hate her.
To Katherine: The reason people are basing on her about the nails, is that 1) Fake nails around newborns is frowned upon, to say the least. Not to mention these kids are not exactly healthy.
2) The money for nails and MAC make-up could have been spent on house cleaning, food, medical expenses… anything else! The fact that she did it with cameras recording shows that discretion is not in her vocabulary.
i dont see how you could feel bad for his woman i do understand this story has been twisted many ways to make her look bad. However after the 6th child what could have possessed her to have another one. Some of you might say “oh she didn’t know she would have more than one child from this fertility treatment” however if she cared to do research on the treatment she would have found that most of these treatments result in twins and sometimes triplets. you cannot blame the company that does these treatments because this procedure is fairly new and it has provided many couples with a chance to have children. you simply cannot compare nadya with other mothers because she doesnt deserve to be called a mother she is a wack job who doesnt deserve to have children. finally now that she has the children why should she be able to keep them. she lives off disability checks from the state and needs to feed 6 children. add 8 more to that and it is simply impossible for her to take care of her kids. She should put her children up for adoption so they have a chance to live normal lives.
First let me say to all the Nayda supporters, that not all of us who are angry with this situation agree with the death threats and vile that is being slung around. Please stop lumping all of us into the same catogory. Just because it may be wrong to judge her, does not mean that she should not be confronted about her behavior. I am not one of those people who flood her website with insults, I am not trying to boycott anyone, but I will call things as I see them, and it is my opinion that Nayda has acted in a selfish and attention seeking manner. Most of my concern is for the children, because its obvious that she is not capable of making decisons that are best for them. The decisions that she makes all seem to only benefit her and no one else.
Its not about her getting her nails done or buying expensive makeup. Every woman with kids needs to treat herself now and then. But any woman who can afford to get her nails done on a regular basis or shop for million dollar homes, DOES NOT need my money. She doesnt need anyones money for that matter. I have a problem with the fact that she blantanly ask the public for assistance for a situation that she willfully and purposfully created and then spends money like its growing on trees. You cannot beg with one hand and have a credit card in the other! It bothers me that she chooses to spend her money on things that have nothing to do with those kids, yet she lets her parents go on tv to talk about all the help she needs. It bothers me that she spent over $100 thousand dollars on herself for invetro treatments to satisfy her own wants and desires, but completely ignored her parents financial problems. She could have helped them. Even her own mother says that she never gave her a dime to help, even though they opened their home to her and all of her kids. Instead she thanks them by getting pregnant with more kids that will surely put them into more financial difficulty instead of using the money to finish school or help her parents catch up on their mortgage. Does that sound like good judgment to you?
I just wish people would stop feeling sorry for her. She has already made plenty of money off of this situation. She does not need mine so I will not be sending any. If she truely cared about those kids and her parents she would take some of that money, pay off those hospital bills, catch up her folks mortgage payments and take Gloria Alred up on her offer to house the children with round the clock care through the Angels in Waiting program. If she doesnt do those things, then it will finally be clear to all of her supporters that she is only interested in money.
I WILL support any effort that gets help for the kids, but I WILL NOT support any effort that puts any more money into her pocket or gives her any more undeserved attention.
This is nothing more than another welfare mom with massaive amounts of children whom suck society to death. Tell me this, how is California going to pay the tab for this well planned mess if they can’t even pay their bills that they have now? The reason we are all so pissed about this, is because we have children here that are neglected due to lack of benefits, and this baby maker gets loads of $$ from the taxpayers..
This lady deserves every iota of hatred we, as a society, can give. She represents a allegedly astronomical burden on the welfare system and makes no contributions worth noting. I hate that she exists and that she allegedly swallows hundreds of thousands of public funds. People like her do not deserve one dollar of donation or funding.
Good job, California. You’ve created a whole family of fiscal parasites. Keep it up and the added weight of public children should be enough to drop you off the Pacific shelf permanently.
Among the forms of illegal fraud she has committed, she has misused her student loan money. She said she will continue to live on
There was UNAMIMOUS decision by the US Supreme Court that misuse of student loan money, even without evidence of fraudulent intent, is grounds for criminal prosecution.
The court loosened criteria for criminal prosecution of misuse by students and the schools that administer loans, in a decision supporters called ‘a win for the rule book.’
While ‘intent to fraud’ was an initial requirement of loan fraud legislation, the court’s decision said misapplication of funds is inherently criminal.
Just substitute the word “children” for all references to “animal.” Animal hoarding involves keeping higher than usual numbers of animals as pets without having the ability to properly house or care for them, while at the same time denying this inability. Compulsive hoarding can be characterized as a symptom of obsessive-compulsive disorder rather than deliberate cruelty towards animals. Hoarders are deeply attached to their pets, and find it extremely difficult to let the pets go. They typically cannot comprehend that they are harming their pets by failing to provide them with proper care. Hoarders tend to believe that they provide the right amount of care for their pets. The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals provides a “Hoarding Prevention Team”, which works with hoarders to help them attain a manageable and healthy number of pets.
1 Characteristics of a hoarder
2 Legal solutions
3 Dangers of hoarding
4 Health effects on animals
4.1 Malnourishment
4.2 Overcrowding
4.3 Owner neglect
4.4 Lasting consequences
5 Health effects on humans
5.1 Sanitation concerns
5.2 Diseases
5.3 Self-neglect and child/elder abuse
6 Mental health issues
6.1 Delusional Disorder
6.2 Attachment Disorder
6.3 Obsessive-compulsive Disorder
While I agree with some of your points, particulary the fact that none of us actually knows Nadya and therefore we cannot know the kind of person she is, I have to say this: people would not be judging her if she had not brought children into the world that she expects others to feed and support. If you had 14 children and the money to support them, I would applaud you! I would wonder how you got any sleep at all, and the logistics of raising 14 kids would boggle my mind, but it would be YOUR decision, YOUR responsibility to deal with the consequences, and YOUR right to do as you wished.
Nadya, however, has NO INCOME other than what she has borrowed (student loans and help from her parents) or begged (food stamps and taxpayer-funded assistance for her medically challenged kids, and the donations she solicits). She is raising 6 children under 7 in a 3-bedroom house. Where does she plan on putting the other 8- in dresser drawers?
She could not provide decent living conditions for her 6 children, but she managed to pay for expensive IVF treatments. She denies having plastic surgery, but there is clearly a difference between her “before” and “after” photos. How did she pay for these surgeries? How could she justify spending that amount of money on herself, knowing that her children needed more space and better care?
Her mother’s house is about to be foreclosed- she could have spent her surgery/IVF money on helping her mother financially. But no, she had to have “just one more child”, as if supporting 7 children with no income would have been perfectly fine. Is this the attitude we should be encouraging?
And why did she do all this? She says she loves children and wants a big family to make up for the fact that she had no siblings. Newsflash: if you love children as more than playthings, you make sure you can meet your children’s needs. Even if Nadya were a multi-millionaire with the resources to raise 14 children (with the help of nannies and assistants and the like), her children would never have their need for quality time with their mother met. It is not humanly possible to give 14 children the attention they deserve- there are just not enough hours in the day! Yes, other parents (ie: the Duggars and the Gosselins) have had large numbers of children- but watch their shows. None of their children get enough of the one-on-one attention that they so sorely need and deserve. And pressure is put on the older siblings to parent the younger ones, depriving the older kids of their right to a childhood.
Nadya KNEW she could not support her existing children, but chose to bring more into the world anyway. She KNEW this, but her need to have a big family outweighed (in her mind) her children’s needs for food, clothing and shelter. That is the most selfish act I can imagine. This woman is obviously narcissistic, irresponsible and childish in the extreme. If what she was looking for was unconditional love, she should have bought a puppy. But then, if she were to have 14 puppies without proper facilities and resources to raise them, the state would intervene and take them from her- why shouldn’t her children be protected in the same way?
So when you say that we can’t judge Nadya because we don’t know her, I disagree. If we DIDN’T know Nadya, it would be unfair to pass judgment. But it becomes clearer every day that we DO know Nadya- we’re just disgusted by what we see.
I hope the babies turn out ok and have a safe and healthy life. She is a very, very selfish woman. Doesn’t matter how you look at it. Sick or not, she is extremely selfish.
This woman is not mentally ill and in need of pity and well-wishes. She is simply a selfish narcissist.
As a California tax payer I think I’ve earned the right to judge her and despise her since I’ve been putting food on her table and a roof over her head for YEARS.
It’s frustrating and crazy-making to work full time and watch an unemployed, tax-payer-supported leech on society bring her kids to Disneyland, get plastic surgeries, get her nails done on a regular basis and buy a half million dollar house!! ARGH!
The day YOU PAY for octomom’s kids is the day YOu get to comment on her and her rugrats. Until then. who gives a rat’s ass about her mental state, UNLESS you submit that she ought to be involuntarily sterilized. Yeah, that’s right asswipe, until YOU PAY for it, you have NO RIGHT to opine…
This woman is ridiculous! Why is she “hated” – because she is being incredibly selfish and is being rewarded for such actions!!! I think people need to realize that she is abusing the “free” services she is getting because she wants to keep being a “MOMMY”. Guess what honey, why don’t you take care of your 6 children that you already have, and stop polluting the world with more babies that are forced to live in containers so you can have your moment. Stop promoting a woman that is obnoxious, selfish and cruel. She is a example of a C*NT. Gross.
This is a great blog, and you are 100% right.
I AM SO F-ING SICK of listening to you hateful, vengeful, bitches attack this loving but misguided person. SHUT UP. You are disgusting people.
The only thing that gives me comfort is knowing you nasty bitches will be judged with as much vengeance by God as you are judging Nadya.
i don’t think she bought the 500k dollar house with food stamps.
people’s upset is morphing one idea into another as though all things have been paid for by the people of california.
whatever has been paid for would have passed muster with the state of california or it would not have paid. if you are unhappy about that then get the system fixed.
since everyone is so convinced she has had plastic surgery how come someone from her past hasn’t come forward and said exactly that? how come her parents didn’t say something about plastic surgery since her mother seems intent on revealing everything? those words to the right media outlet would pay for the mortgage on the mother’s house to be paid in an instant. and fix all the damage that the kids did to it. i doubt she has had plastic surgery and therefore this was not paid for by the people of the state of california.
while we are at it how come anyone from her past hasn’t come forward and heaped rubbish on her? that sort of interview would pay a pretty penny! but nothing and so i can only conclude that the media has created this monster that everyone hates.
not even the neighbours in whittier complained about her to the media. they had years of living next to her and yet there were no stories that were of any consequence coming from the neighbours.
(responding to “M”)
“I AM SO F-ING SICK of listening to you hateful, vengeful, bitches attack this loving but misguided person. SHUT UP. You are disgusting people.”
That’s a pretty hateful, vengeful, bitchy thing to say there, toots…
P.S. I will not be judged by god
well at least he’s got the little details all worked out, lmao
Hello I’m not made at her at all I got my tubes tied and hopeing to have have a tubal reversal or maybe IVF still looking to see how she payed for this I no it cost alot but hell I’m have a hard time comeing up with that kind of cash so I no someone or something had to come in to play with her she has no job but that doesnt matter she can still give them love and whos to say she cant do it on her on with a little help from whom ever give a her a chance
I’m not mad at her I wish i could have a baby I’M trying my best to have a tubal reversal done so good that some one helped her out I wish I had the help she had so I cant say any thing mean about her just take care of the babies
THANK YOU! Finally, good sense prevails. Do we really have any right to HATE Nadya? Do we know her or do we think we know her based on what the media generates about her? Don’t you guys notice that almost anything that is said about her these days is posted by gossip mags that feed on rumours and lies? You ppl need to get a grip and target your anger to the more well deserved. This author is right because if Nadya was not a single mother this issue would have not been brought up. What about the duggar family 17 and counting? Jon and Kate plus 8? Jon and Kate already had twins and decided to go back for fertility treatment and wound up with 6. People are really a stone’s throw away from attacking single moms on a whole. We really should stop judging ppl based on what the media generates because let’s face it, the majority of the gossip loving readers are gullible. If they posted that she stripped for barack obama they’d believe it.
TO N:
We all will be judged my God. We are accountable for every idle word spoken. Whether you believe it or not, it is fact.
TO SUSAN:
I agree with you. To a certain extent, the media has created her out to be a monster. The rest of the blames lies on the shoulders of the gullible public who takes everything dished out by the media as factual information. Newsflash: Entertainment reigns and whatever the media houses think will sell, they don’t care if it’s true which is why they have a great deal of money invested in law firms to battle victims of their false reporting. They do it all in the name of ‘free speech’ and ‘freedom of the press’. They believe it’s their right to post whatever they want, however they want, especially if its untrue, as long as it generates hits and sales.
To all those who say they’re paying for Nadya’s expenses, YOU’RE ALL LIARS. You can hide behind these stupid monikers and internet ids but to be honest I’m sure you guys NEVER paid taxes a day in your life. Why? Because those who pay taxes have JOBS and are not using company time to post hateful comments about people you don’t even know. Time is money, go do something productive like get a G-E-D or better yet, a J-O-B.
To a Mom in Los Angeles, you’re a fool in L.A. You’re lying, you know you don’t pay taxes. Those in Cali who pay taxes have jobs and are busy spending time with their kids. If you are a mom as you say you are, you should be monitoring your kid on the pc and not someone you don’t know.
you ppl claim you’re not passing judgment on her yet say that she’s selfish? Do you know her? You say that she brought kids into the world that she had no idea how to support, how many mothers out there (who turned out to be excellent mothers by the way) got pregnant and initially had no idea how to take care of the children? This is the reality. Not everyone who has kids fully laid out a financial plan for them.
Gee I’m glad I saw this. Thanks for writing it. I agree. I am astonished at the amount of vitriol thrown at this woman. Like the self righteous so-and-so who says the planet is overpopulated and blah blah bloody blah. Why not just think of her as compensating for babies who die prematurely or for women who can’t or don’t want children. In our parent’s generation it wasn’t unusual for people to have 10 children. Worse, people will keep screaming that she’s bound to fail; and that will add pressure that makes her fail. Just say summin nice and helpful or don’t say anything at all.
Good write up – good to see.
When the taxes on your hard work come due, tell me you don’t want to pound this freak’s face into the pavement time and time again … She’s out buying MAC I can’t afford after working 12 hours a day? She’s cashing in food stamps?! And if she’s mentally ill, take the kids away before she goes Andrea Yates on them!!
I can’t really say that i don’t hate her, even though I don’t know her, I severely dislike her. Now some of you say that the media has spun the story to make her look like a villain. Ok that may be true, but let us look at the true solid cold hard undeniable facts. She had 6 children already that she could barely support. Then she decided to have a very expensive IVF (is that right?) treatment. Let’s say that she actually has a really nice job and in the fantasy that I am spinning, it pays 100k a year(that’s white collar) or even 300k that’s still not enough money to care for 14 children. Let’s get back to reality according to most people, she has $0 coming in from a job every year, She relies on the state to pay for her, she clearly has some mental issues and the doctor should have taken notice, but she still decided to have the children. She does not even seem remorseful that she has more or less doomed her 14 kids to death or worse (yes living in the streets can be worse than death (i imagine)) Hell even if she had a husband, what use would that guy be, taking care of 14 freaking children should be a job for much more than 1 person. Look at these facts. She simply cannot support them. She shouldn’t even be allowed out of her house, unless it was for the sake of her sanity. Her eyes should be on her 14 children, not anything else unless it would be able to provide a better existence for those 14 kids. The media can only lie so much, 14 kids and no job: this is fact. I find it extremely difficult to not use the word hate. I extremely dislike Octomom.