John Travolta May Leave Scientology Over Son’s Death
Posted by Cole Gamble at 2:00 PM on July 10, 2009
Many former Scientologists suspect the fallout over his son’s death may draw John Travolta from out of the Religion’s fold (all apologies to those who do not believe Scientology earns the moniker “religion”). This belief is based on whether or not Travolta will ultimately blame his faith for the death of his son. Travolta’s son, Jett, suffered from autism and his demise was pinned on a seizure disorder. Scientology does not recognise autism as a medical condition and therefore denounces the use of medication (or medication for any psychological disorder: see Tom Cruise’s castigation of Brooke Shields for medicating her postnatal depression).
Was Scientology to blame for Jett’s death? Couldn’t have helped. A person like John Travolta’s son requires medication for serious illness, whether or not Scientology thinks said illness exists.
Of course, news like this has been a little too common as of late. We’ve seen many stories of parents arrested for denying medical treatment to their children because it “was against their faith.” How about you? Has religion ever asked you to do something as a parent that you believed belittled common sense?
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When talking in generalities, both sides have good points.
When talking in specifics, Jett Travolta probably should have been allowed to experiment with autism medications to see if any helped him. How stupid to just outright decide to take an option off the table, due to religious beliefs.
But then again… mass medical culture is barely more intelligent than the religions.
Psychotropics are prescribed like candy.
Some doctors prescribe anti-depressants when people complain of insomnia. Or mild depression.
And way too many kids are prescribed Ritalin, obviously, just by looking at the numbers.
This is insanity on the part of America’s medical culture.
So it’s quite good to be cautious and resistant sometimes.
But it’s not good to just blindly be so, out of some cultish obedience to a group of associates.
To know the facts of the cult of $cientology you must learn from its present members and from those who left the group and for what reasons.
The fact is that nearly all EX-$cientologists say the same thing–that the church of $cientology is NOT a church but a evil and dangerous Godless cult.
I left because they claimed that my Hepatitis C was caused by my mother and sister–whom they claimed were suppressive persons.
In the cult all illnesses, symptoms and physical medical, mental and emotional conditions, are blamed on people targeted and named as being suppressive persons. If you get sick they will seek to blame someone near you, as the only cause of all illnesses of mankind.
I reversed and cured my illness and have dedicated my life that they almost took from me, to fighting and exposing the truth of the scams and frauds of this Godless and evil cult.
LOOK UP “physiological reactions” and “mother nature’s secrets of life and death” to learn the healing and medical scams of the cult.
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Scientology is such an all-encompassing brainwash scam — especially for the stars who are assigned special “handlers” to keep them from real news — it is doubtful Travolta will get out of the cult. By “real news,” I mean the four top ex-scientologists who came forward in the St. Petersburg Times series, to say they saw the leader of Scientology beat staff, they got beaten, and in two cases, they became beaters themselves. One top ex-Scientologist admitted to destroying evidence in the criminal cult’s botched “cure” for Lisa McPherson, where they kept her tied in a basement, and she died from dehydration.
Scientology is a culture of deception at all levels, and violence at the top levels. They do everything to keep their “stats” up, and bury suicides, deaths (accidental?) and corruption. Really, as TIME magazine’s cover article exposed years ago, Scientology operates like the mafia, more than a fake “religion.”
Scientology helps small groups of people, for promotional purposes only. They are the least giving/helping religion “major” religion in the world. Honestly, their God is $$$.
In one of their orientation videos years ago, they made it clear that there were only two alternatives in the world: shooting yourself, or joining Scientology.
Their appeal to vulnerable and depressed people is shameless. When you see these people on the street, e-metering or offering free personality tests, just remember that they are people, but they are brainwashed zombie, shell people. They will be punished when they don’t keep the dupes flowing into the cult.
Your item is opinion, not facts. Fact: Scientology does not “denounce the use of medication”; Fact: you do not have personal knowledge of whether the child was given medication or not. In answer to your question: Has religion ever asked you to do something as a parent that you believed belittled common sense? – I make my decisions based on facts and am not swayed by personal opinion or popular beliefs. I do not blindly follow what some person says God wants me to do. So if it ever came up I would stick to facts and make my decision on what was best for my family.
The comments on this post so far tend to reflect, shall I say, animonisity toward the religion of Scientology. It’s a modern, socially-acceptable thing to be a bigot where this religion is concerned, but such bigotry still gives me the creeps.
There’s nothing in Scientology that “recognizes” or doesn’t recognize an actual disease such as autism. Scientologists generally tend to distrust the diagnoses of psychiatrists, because they are based on usually brief, subjective “tests” that are then interpreted by the psychiatrist to mean whatever he thinks. And then boatloads of money are thrown at psychiatric drugs which have long been known to produce horrendous side effects. So yeah, we have a bone to pick with psych drugging. That said, I know from personal experience over the last 40 years as a practicing Scientologist, that when someone is sick, and drugs are the answer (such as antibiotics for a raging infection, or insulin for a diabetic, or heart medications or whatever, as long as there’s a valid medical condition you can prove (to yourself) with a lab test or physical exam, then Scientologists have no objections to taking medically necessary drugs.
It’s a persistent rumor spread by those infested with hate toward Scientology, to make it sound creepy and controlling. It’s not.
BTW, the idea of John Travolta leaving Scientology because of his son’s death is laughable. Where do you guys think this up?
Scientology *helps* people. Not everybody, but a lot of people swear by it. Some people really, really don’t like that it helps people. It just makes them all kinds of crazy thinking about that. Real help for real people trying to get off drugs, or communicate better, or understand themselves and others better.
The idea of people actually getting better just drives some people insane.
Don’t be one of them.
Also, I knew Lisa McPherson, which is more than any of you jerks can say. She was a nice girl. She died of an aneurism on the way to a hospital, not dehydration in some basement somewhere.
You want to be outraged about someone dying, pick any of the 10,000 people who die in psych institutions in America every year.
Uh, Jay, you are clearly a Scientologist trying to hide the cult’s crazy from public viewing. Scientology doesn’t just “distrust” psychiatry and psychology. Scientologists quite openly claim psychiatry was responsible for, amongst other things, the Holocaust. This is not “helping people.” This is peddling a fundamentally unsound vision of the world to unstable people who can then be taken advantage of emotionally and financially. (Does one really wonder why celebrities are attracted?)
To be sure, if one wishes to believe that autism is caused by the bad vibes leftover by the galactic overload Xenu blowing people up in volcanoes one billion years ago (yeah, just google it), that is one’s prerogative. Let people believe what they will. But if one then wishes to socially isolate and extort money from the mentally unstable while simultaneously turning them against the very science that might genuinely be able to help them–well, that’s cruel, exploitative, and generally vile behaviour. We would not tolerate it of Exxon Mobile simply because they rebranded themselves the Church of Exxon Mobile and put a cross-like image on their annual report, now would we?
It is by no means bigoted to stand up for human dignity by pointing this out. It would be reprehensible to deny it in deference to a group of bullies using the open-mindedness of people of good conscience to mask their madness.
It was founded by a mediocre science-fiction writer who once claimed to have travelled back in time to ancient Rome. Enough said.
That a single person is willing to claim this as their “religion” is a testament to the profound stupidity of our species. Sadly, it has cost more than a few lives, and more than a few people’s sanity.
Jay, if what you say is true, why have so many Scientologists died after eschewing medical treatment for common ailments such as epilepsy or cancer? LRon claims 90% of all illnesses were psychosomatic and would respond to Dianetic processing- so yeah, Scientologists, despite public protestation, are NOT fond of medicine.
“The comments on this post so far tend to reflect, shall I say, animonisity toward the religion of Scientology. It’s a modern, socially-acceptable thing to be a bigot where this religion is concerned, but such bigotry still gives me the creeps.”
Jay is obviously a $cientologist. They are the only ones who defend their Cult. First of all just because the IRS gives Tax exemption, after decades of denying it and over 1000 lawsuits against the IRS from $cientology, and just because a failed Sci Fi writer says it is doesn’t make it so. If CoCa Cola declared themselves a religion I’d be outwardly against it also. $cientology is no religion. They won’t even discuss what it is they believe. It’s all double speak and semantics with them. Don’t be fooled by Jay and Kim, both $cientology shills following every news story online to comment on in defense of Co$. $cientology is a dangerous cult and WAS listed as the number one most dangerous cult by the Cult Awareness Network. That is until $cientology sued them into bankruptcy and then bought and now operate them. So if/when you call the Cult Awareness Network you’ll be speaking to a $cientologist. Nothing shaddy about that????
“There’s nothing in Scientology that “recognizes” or doesn’t recognize an actual disease such as autism. Scientologists generally tend to distrust the diagnoses of psychiatrists, because they are based on usually brief, subjective “tests” that are then interpreted by the psychiatrist to mean whatever he thinks.”
HYSTERICAL!!!
That is actually what $cientology Auditing is. $cientology is no where near a “SCIENCE.” When Dianetics and $cientology have been tested by the Scientitif, Psychological and Medical communities, it has been dismissed due to utter ridiculousness and insane assertions. In fact the Psychology industries denial of Dianetics back in the 50’s is what got L Ron Hubbard started on his crusade against the mental health industry. $cientologists want to replace this industry with their own brand of Voodoo space stories and dangerous medical claims. This needs to be stopped now.
No one is buying your garbage Jay. But please keep posting hypocritical and ridiculous statements that you can’t back up, it’s HYSTERICAL!
It would be much to Mr. Travolta’s advantage to escape the grubby clutches of these dangerous, unscrupulous hypocrites. It’s obvious to anyone who bothers to seek out the facts that $cientology is, to put it mildly, a cruel, irrational cult founded by a cynical psychopath. It has nothing to do with spiritual advancement and everything to do with making money by systematic deception, intimidation and bullying.
Scientology is what happens when bad science fiction, multilevel marketing schemes, and a complete lack of ethics collide.
Jay, what level are you at in the cult? How much money have you spent to get there in auditing and seminars and so on? Notice the price keeps going up and up the further up you get? Notice that a person’s readiness to progress to the next level has more to do with their income than their actual spiritual development?
I’m not a fan of _any_ religion, but some are benign and others are downright vile. Scientology, while not the most vile in the world, is definitely ranking right up there, just a step below, say, Heaven’s Gate or the People’s Temple (who engaged in mass suicide in Jonestown). Your religion destroys peoples lives just to make people like David Miscavige rich. Shame on them and shame on you for defending them.
It’s going to be funny when people find old memoirs of L.R. Hubbard, and the very last sentence it says “I was just kidding, you guys are dumb.”
You australian people make me giggle. Dingos eat your babies!